Orono: I don't know whether or not these posts go thru. But I will try and hope. Glad to see that you set Joyce straight on the 2nd Amendment (not that I am particularly into 2nd amend issues). But I do like to see that ignorant, arrogant, disagreeable woman put down now and again. I "debated" her on various issues in several yrs past but have given up: no longer think it worthwhile to have a direect interchanges with her. Nothing to be gained. She just keeps repeating the same junk over and over again. And, I as I said she is soo.. ignorant, just doesn't know it. As to Susan, well.....?